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I've been censored. Because if I don't take the post down, I'm a bitch. And this coming from somebody I have tried and tried to be friends with and who, first, mocks me in a public mailing list, and then decides what I can or cannot say in my journal. MINE.

But I'm taking it down anyway. Don't call me a wuss... anyone who knows me will know that this screams against every fiber of my being and isn't as easy as clicking the "status quo" button. I am filled with reluctance and loathing for my own action in backing down.

To this person: I hope you're goddamn happy. I've allowed you to control an aspect of my life that doesn't even involve you. Everything else, I've already said in private e-mail.

To Wisdom: Since I know you've become aware of this little drama, I hope you've no problems with me and urge you to talk to me as soon as possible.

What's the fucking point in using this thing now if I can't write what I think? What's the point, if people throw tantrums?

I didn't even use her goddamn name, people.

TMD to the PRG

Date: 2000-11-25 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jestyr.livejournal.com
Well. What a conundrum.

Seems to me, however, that this person didn't care too much about her privacy or such, and was merely pushing out for attention. After all, you didn't use any names. I know, I read the post. And if SHE was the one who dragged it out, putting it up all over the place, then it was her intention, consciously or subconsciously, to be known as the person who was being spoken of.

Fuck Censorship.
Damn the (wo)Man.

Date: 2000-11-25 02:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] subbes
I think if she were poushing for attention, she wouldn't have asked for the post to be taken down. She would have asked that the post include a link to her, along with a detailed biography and whatnot.

...maybe she just wanted a little privacy...

Re:

Date: 2000-11-25 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jestyr.livejournal.com
Yes, but she didn't. She posted it up, declaring loudly, "See this!? This is about ME!!"

So...I don't think she's too concerned about her privacy.

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Date: 2000-11-25 03:22 pm (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
Oh, she did not. She commented impulsively then realised that she didn't know if she could even edit itand take it back, then went and made another mistake by posting her rebuttal to a public thingummylist rather than the private email she meant to do it, then she went and had a panic attack in the corner.

I think she is concerned about her privacy. Cause she asked it be taken down rather than revelling in the attention, see? If she didn't want privacy, she'd be dancing up and down in nothing but a Princess Leia bikini right about now, rather than asking if debate could be stopped on this issue. Cause she's still shaking a bit.

don't pretend to know her motives, cause she ain't some cartoon person with clearly marked ones.

Re:

Date: 2000-11-25 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
I know I said I wouldn't post.

But that was damn funny.

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Date: 2000-11-25 03:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] subbes
I do requests, too.

Unless the request is to please shut up, beause I'm not going to do that.

I does want to know what the funny bit was, though.

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Date: 2000-11-25 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
Mostly the bit about the bikini, I think.

I request that you get your ass out here for Saint Pat's.

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Date: 2000-11-25 03:49 pm (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
only if the rest of me can come. My ass alone won't be all that entertaining, regardless of how many times you claim I talk out of it.


i demand to be a Satryr, dammit.

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Date: 2000-11-25 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
Well, first off, Satyrs are male.

Second off... well... it's something you need to earn. And you don't know me well enough yet, anyway.

:::meeps:::

sorry.

Re:

Date: 2000-11-25 04:19 pm (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
Dammit. Always with the fact I'm female.

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Date: 2000-11-25 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
I know, I'm such a bitch about gender distinctions, aren't I?

You never know. Maybe someday I'll need some... what, Nymphs?

I think I just connect better with men on an emotional level.

Besides, my Satyrs have done me the favor of helping me retain some semblance of sanity.

Oooooh, sibilance.

Where's dinner, dammit.

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Date: 2000-11-25 04:25 pm (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
The fact you're straight, you mean?

Tell you what, you convince the family I'm meant to be visiting that I have good reason to be late and I'll track down dinner.

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Date: 2000-11-25 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
Yeah, that whole hetero bit.

Uhmm...you mean feeding the hungry isn't a good enough reason?

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Date: 2000-11-25 08:04 pm (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
You're not hungry... just gently famished.

Anyway, the children love me. It's the eyes, you know.

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Date: 2000-11-25 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
Well, dinner came. With bad tidings. JesusFUCK my ulcers. aaahhggggg.

ROAR

Date: 2000-11-25 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 01flux.livejournal.com
I had the same thing happen to me. THE EXACT SAME THING. I posted a long explanitory post about what had happened to me on a particular day, what I thought of it, what I thought of the people involved, and this bitch comes screaming at me demanding to take it down or sh'es going to commit suicide. I freaked, and actually bought her little pity party, and was in the process of deleting my journal entirely when a friend tapped me on the shoulder and mentioned my feelings were valid too.

The little girl who did this was doing it for attention. She was afraid anything you said would defame her precious image, and she wouldn't be the good guy in the situation.

I say, move it to friends only. But don't delete it.

Re: ROAR

Date: 2000-11-25 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
:::calming pets for Stevie:::

Whoah, girl.

1) I don't want it to be friends only.

2) I took it down already. It's gone, one more memory lost. I've mourned it.

3) I think it was a bit of a different situation here. I've spoken to the subject, and though I still don't entirely agree with her POV, everything is totally cool now.

Re: ROAR

Date: 2000-11-25 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jestyr.livejournal.com
Right.

So.
Young girl, screamed, yelled. Done.
Allison. Made her point..and is heving headaches now. Done.
Me. I have a girl on my couch of luuuuuv. Done.

I think..we're done.

Re: ROAR

Date: 2000-11-25 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
but... I still don't have my dinner.

Or my Strength.

Re: ROAR

Date: 2000-11-25 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 01flux.livejournal.com
Oh.

Damn, now I'm curious over what the fuss was over.

Re: ROAR

Date: 2000-11-25 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
It's all very silly and is making me vomit blood. I'll tell you when it's history, hon.

Date: 2000-11-25 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steveness.livejournal.com
-cracks knuckles-

delete the post.

we'll kill her.

put the post back up.

-smiles-

Re:

Date: 2000-11-25 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
no, no, don't do that. she's a nice girl, really.

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Date: 2000-11-25 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] subbes
post must have been strong enough to cause umbrage, not just an unjustified whine. if it was unjustified i can't see it being taken down.

see, this is why people self-censor. saves deleting it later and losing face and this whole rigamarole. easier just to write about the way the rain falls and the smell of wet paint on a white wall. what i do, anyway. not that i did the white wall, but but i did the rain bit. also danced around in just a hula skirt.

[just cant be bothered to keep a livejournal as well as the-anathema.org really. too much bother.]

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Date: 2000-11-25 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdoll13.livejournal.com
Well, I guess if everyone were like you, the world would be a much better, much more boring place.

Someone you know told me today that they would've left the post up.

I don't give a shit about paint on goddamn walls.

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Date: 2000-11-25 09:53 pm (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
oh, well i like paint on walls. theyre pretty and the fumes make my head go to that lovely floatyplace.Also lots of lovely metaphors inside that one. light off the matt finish, the way it gloops down the finger and your brush, covering over the old with a new coat of shiney innocense. better than moving a fridge any day.

dont really care what someone i know thinks. let them give their own opinion here if they want, i only give mine. because i ain't qualified to give anyone else's.

Date: 2000-11-25 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragondark.livejournal.com
The microcosm continues.

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Date: 2000-11-26 07:06 am (UTC)
subbes: A line-drawing of a jar labelled "Brand's Essence of Chicken" (Default)
From: [personal profile] subbes
There might even be popcorn.

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